is it right for one to drink wine after being saved
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is it right for one to drink wine after being saved
is it right for one to drink wine after being saved
im not really sure abt it please assist
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Posted by samuel
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We are free to do whatever we want to do - but not everything serves to our Good.
So as long as You control the alcohol(vine) and not the alcohol You - enjoy Your vine!
However most important to God is the salvation of as many as possible. So if You love God - make(to the extend of Your ability) Your life a tool of salvation - and then this will answer Your questen whether or when to drink wine or not!
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Posted by Tibor
im not really sure abt it please assist
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Posted by samuel
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We are free to do whatever we want to do - but not everything serves to our Good.
So as long as You control the alcohol(vine) and not the alcohol You - enjoy Your vine!
However most important to God is the salvation of as many as possible. So if You love God - make(to the extend of Your ability) Your life a tool of salvation - and then this will answer Your questen whether or when to drink wine or not!
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Posted by Tibor
After we become a Christian, is drinking wine a sin?
Is drinking any alcoholic beverage a sin according to the Word of God? Samuel, the answer is no, drinking wine or any alcoholic beverage (in moderation) is not a sin. Let me share with you what God taught me from the Holy Bible.
First, would our Lord Jesus Christ use both bread and wine to institute a new covenant at the Last Supper if drinking wine was sinful? (Matthew 26:26-29; Mark 14:22-25; Luke 22:19-20) Second, why would Jesus' very first miracle be turning water into wine? (John 2:1-11) Third, some Christians told me that Jesus never drank wine, that it was always grape juice. Let's use a little common sense. Before the invention of refrigeration, electricity, and Pasteurization, the only way to keep grape juice from spoiling was to ferment it: turn it into alcoholic wine. The harvest season usually comes in August/September, yet the Passover occurs March/April/May, depending upon the phase of the full moon on the Jewish calendar. That's a difference of six months or more. Left out at room temperature, grape juice won't keep even six days! Fermentation was the only method available to keep the grape juice from spoiling.
Samuel, the religious leaders of Jesus' day falsely accused Jesus Christ and John the Baptist of sinful behavior. (Luke 7:33-34; Matthew 11:18-19) Jesus drank wine moderately and John never drank wine at all; yet both were condemned! Be very careful of an accuser! Is this person (1) gently trying to constructively help a friend who has made a mistake, or (2) a person who "heard it from a trusted source" and might mean well, but this person has got it all wrong, or (3) a person who is a predator, who seeks to take away your God-given rights, to tie you down in religious nonsense and make you doubt your own convictions in order to steal your joy? And the joy in the Lord is our strength! (Nehemiah 8:10; see also Romans 5:11)
There are benefits for using wine as a medicine. In the parable of the Good Samaritan, Jesus Christ mentioned how the Samaritan used both oil and wine to cleanse the wounds. (verse 34 of Luke 10:25-37) Also, the Apostle Paul gave advice for an upset stomach and infirmities: use a little wine and no water. (1 Timothy 5:23; see also Psalms 104:15) Wine was even recognized as a pain reducer. (Proverbs 31:6)
So what is the sin? Drunkenness. (Romans 13:13; verse 21 of Galatians 5:19-21; Ephesians 5:18)
For everyday Christians, the rule about sin is simple: don't get drunk! But for those called to the Lord's special work, there are higher standards. A deacon must be "not given to much wine." (1 Timothy 3:8) A bishop, or pastor, must be "not given to wine" at all. (1 Timothy 3:3; Titus 1:7) These positions require a higher sobriety. Notice that's a specific requirement to a specific job; not a life-long personal requirement for an average Christian.
One caution. Even though we might know the truth about wine and all alcoholic drink, the Apostle Paul is very clear in his writings: don't stumble your brother in the body of Christ! (Romans 14:21) If your fellow Christian either can't understand your moderate use of wine or he can't handle it, such as a recovering alcoholic, then don't do it in front of them! You can still drink wine at other times but be considerate of the needs of your fellow Christian.
First, would our Lord Jesus Christ use both bread and wine to institute a new covenant at the Last Supper if drinking wine was sinful? (Matthew 26:26-29; Mark 14:22-25; Luke 22:19-20) Second, why would Jesus' very first miracle be turning water into wine? (John 2:1-11) Third, some Christians told me that Jesus never drank wine, that it was always grape juice. Let's use a little common sense. Before the invention of refrigeration, electricity, and Pasteurization, the only way to keep grape juice from spoiling was to ferment it: turn it into alcoholic wine. The harvest season usually comes in August/September, yet the Passover occurs March/April/May, depending upon the phase of the full moon on the Jewish calendar. That's a difference of six months or more. Left out at room temperature, grape juice won't keep even six days! Fermentation was the only method available to keep the grape juice from spoiling.
Samuel, the religious leaders of Jesus' day falsely accused Jesus Christ and John the Baptist of sinful behavior. (Luke 7:33-34; Matthew 11:18-19) Jesus drank wine moderately and John never drank wine at all; yet both were condemned! Be very careful of an accuser! Is this person (1) gently trying to constructively help a friend who has made a mistake, or (2) a person who "heard it from a trusted source" and might mean well, but this person has got it all wrong, or (3) a person who is a predator, who seeks to take away your God-given rights, to tie you down in religious nonsense and make you doubt your own convictions in order to steal your joy? And the joy in the Lord is our strength! (Nehemiah 8:10; see also Romans 5:11)
There are benefits for using wine as a medicine. In the parable of the Good Samaritan, Jesus Christ mentioned how the Samaritan used both oil and wine to cleanse the wounds. (verse 34 of Luke 10:25-37) Also, the Apostle Paul gave advice for an upset stomach and infirmities: use a little wine and no water. (1 Timothy 5:23; see also Psalms 104:15) Wine was even recognized as a pain reducer. (Proverbs 31:6)
So what is the sin? Drunkenness. (Romans 13:13; verse 21 of Galatians 5:19-21; Ephesians 5:18)
For everyday Christians, the rule about sin is simple: don't get drunk! But for those called to the Lord's special work, there are higher standards. A deacon must be "not given to much wine." (1 Timothy 3:8) A bishop, or pastor, must be "not given to wine" at all. (1 Timothy 3:3; Titus 1:7) These positions require a higher sobriety. Notice that's a specific requirement to a specific job; not a life-long personal requirement for an average Christian.
One caution. Even though we might know the truth about wine and all alcoholic drink, the Apostle Paul is very clear in his writings: don't stumble your brother in the body of Christ! (Romans 14:21) If your fellow Christian either can't understand your moderate use of wine or he can't handle it, such as a recovering alcoholic, then don't do it in front of them! You can still drink wine at other times but be considerate of the needs of your fellow Christian.
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Re: is it right for one to drink wine after being saved
I really dont think that its wrong to drink wine as long as one can control the amount of alcohol they take.
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